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I've been playing online poker for over a year now and I seem to be getting the short end of these games.

I'm an OK no limit poker player, making around

This is a question that has been around since online poker began. Playing live you might see 30 to 40 hands per hour while online you can probably see double that.

I play live and online poker very differently. The key to online poker is value betting and to get out of hands when you need to. I know it's hard to lay down high pocket pairs but when the flop is 1 or 2 cards to a straight and the turn brings the flush. Just lay it down.

Right now, I'm focusing on online tournaments and live cash games

Thank you for your input on this.

Think when I wrote the above I was just in a bad mood, after my AAA got taken down by 5555 and not to mention a few others.

But I'm starting to think that maybe I'm just better at live poker than online poker. Making better reads on people's reactions when you bet or raise and finding give-aways.

And I forgot that in online play people are more open to play and get to many people playing anything and striking gold. I started to write down my mistakes and to play a tighter game. (Not bluffing calling stations!)

Once again, thank for your comments.

Best wishes,
Evilrose

Ps: I apologise for the spelling and grammar, I'm from South Africa and English is only a second language to me.

have you tried any freerolls on this site?

I usually assume the worst when playing online.

No I haven't, didn't register through pokernews for any of the sites I'm playing on, so I don't think I qualify for any of them.

Hi Deon,

Do check our freerolls page: http://www.pokernews.com/freeroll-tournaments/

For we usually add up new rooms every now and then here at PokerNews so I am quite sure you will find some events where you can qualify.

Gedas

Hi Gedas,

I'll be sure to check it out.

maybe i'll see you guys in a tourney some day.

thank you all for your help.

Regards,
Evilrose

I've noticed when I sign-up for a new acct., and this has happened at 4 of the 6 online sites I've registered; I get hit w/ the deck and can't seem to lose. I'll get a rush of cards for 5 to 6 sng played, and then BAM, the well dries up and I get bad beat after bad beat.

Must be the online sites way of welcoming a new player.

Yes, I have noticed this as well. The key to winning online poker is value betting. Getting the most money when you have the nuts. It's good to know who your opponent is and what style he plays.

Also, it is cruicial to just let hands go sometimes. Pocket pairs don't always win, read the hand and pay attention to betting patterns.

I'm not convinced that rigging things would be much to the poker room's advantage, especially since on mid and high-limit tables the max rake is reached rather quickly. Giving the impression of a rigged game would certainly hurt business more than it would increase rake for them.

f you're still concerned I would recommend playing only on the larger sites like Party Poker, because they have so much to lose if they are discovered to be rigging the software in any way.

I also don't believe poker rooms to be rigging, anyway I feel it's hard to implement, so there is no point in doing this.

meh online is rigged..ive also noticed when you join a new site you cant seem to lose, then get some horrible beats...if they can rig this,who's to say they are not rigging the whole time??
people alwasy say "but what do they have to gain??"...pretty obvious if they keep the money circulating around the only ones who end up winning are them...online poker room are nothing more than money management programs..end of

but if you insist on still playing online gl...i'm well and truly rid of it now and will only play live

Hey Don,,

I have experienced the same ordeal at least 4 out of the five poker sites that I have played. In the the begining I could do very little wrong, and then, esspesially after my first withdrawl the bomb dropped. Ahead pre flop, flop and most of the time at the turn, but never tho at the river. The old(not sure how old) saying holds true for most sites is: Your only ahead if your behind.

I have been playing Tony G poker for a few months, still hit the rush time and again. As well as hitting a few slumps, my over all experience has been very good. It now is the only place outside of BM I play

Yes....I would have to agree with one of the previos posts. The way to win online is to be patient, wait for your hands and maximize on your profits when you do have the nuts. Equally as important though, is the ability to stay away from bad hands that look tempting, stop chasing hands to the river and being able to lay down mediocre hands (like 2 pair) when someone else has you dominated.

Everyone who believes it's rigged compain of making a withdrawal and then follows the so-called doom switch. Are there any counter-examples of this? Has anyone made a withdrawal after winning a bunch of money, then followed that with winning a bunch more money? I personally have never heard of anyone continuing to win after making a withdrawal, so I'm somewhat of a rigged believer, but I'm willing to admit I could be wrong.

Yesterday I cashed out $1200 from PartyPoker and sat down at the tables two hours later. In this 1000 hands session I played 14.2ptBB/100.

I have heard this story quite often but luckily it never works with me.

Online poker is not rigged. Online poker tends to be a tighter game at comparative stakes to its 'live' counterpart for lots of reasons, although that -should- be counterbalanced in some part by the online game's comparatively lower rake. However, there are still differences, and it is quite true that a player can be much better at one than the other, even if the game itself (such as 2.5 NL) might be the same.

Zingbust,

One problem with the 'doom switch' theory is that a lot of players who make a withdrawal after their first big cashes aren't that experienced to start with, hence the immmediate rush to the cashier, meaning that they got lucky. A lot of people just can't believe that their single big cash just might have been luck, too, rather than that they're actually great players.

You're also overlooking the 'flush with cash' syndrome, in which people who've won a bunch of money then proceed to play like donkeys with the leftovers. (I've done it myself.)

What site do you play on?? To tell you the truth...I have found that there have been more "set ups" on certain sites more than others. That's why you'll find that no matter ho solidly you play...if you play long enough on certain sites...you will eventually lose your winnings and your bankroll....therefore having to buy in again. I initially starting playing at Poker Stars and found it to be really good for the most part. That's when I tried PartyPoker and noticed the difference right away. There were a lot more bad beats and set up hands and I couldn't seem to keep my bankroll. Recently however, I started playing on PokerRoom.com and I have found it to be the fairest and most realistic site I have played on to date.

i beginn to believe that there is not a fair player in a online game. that sucks