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SUNDAY July 21 2008 No answer YET !!!
BEWARE THIS SITE!!!! TELL EVERYONE TO BEWARE!!

Rosso Poker‏
From: steve.r.vanenburg@an.pwc.com
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Sent: Wed 7/23/08 5:29 PM
To: jonh333@
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Dear Mr. Holt,

Referring to your enquiry regarding the statement on the website of Rosso Poker that PricewaterhouseCoopers is the auditor of the company named RTB Enterprises N.V. , I inform you that this statement is false and without any basis. We have contacted the director of the company and have demanded that our name and logo will be removed from their website within 24 hours.
Thank you for making us aware of this fact.

Kind regards
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Steve R. Vanenburg | Partner (TAX) | PricewaterhouseCoopers Netherlands Antilles | Telephone: +599 9 430 0000 | Facsimile: +599 9 461 1119 | steve.r.vanenburg@an.pwc.com

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Typically before I add an affiliate I send a letter like the one below asking pertinent questions that may affect the likelihood I (or a reasonable player) would want to play there. Recently RossoPoker was added to the Online Poker Tour. When reading their information there were several red flags.

With the recent issues of other known fly-by-night new sites and the cycle of new players depositing & winning, site gone, crowd angry, no cash-out, deposit gone - to name a few recent examples Wingows,Big Juicy Odds, Jungle Poker and others most of us know about I'm posting my letter so you are aware that because they have not responded to date clearly this is a site I would not play (deposit my money) at. Of course you can do as you like - please post any accurate information you have that may illuminate what type of an organization this organization is.

This is what I wrote on Thursday 7/17/08 @9:54PM - I have as yet not received a response or a confirmation of receipt which is quite frankly in itself unusual.

Their response is below in blue received on the time and date indicated.
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RE: Prospective Affiliate questions? 2nd request for information‏
From: Jon Holt (jonh333@msn.com)
Sent: Mon 7/21/08 1:50 PM
To: Cashier RossoPoker (cashier@rossopoker.com)
Cc: jonh333@

Merlin333.BigForumLive.Com
Monique,

Please advise me when those methods are in place. I can see no rational, fair reason to publicize your site to US players when you have no method in place to allow them to be paid should they win.

I will place our correspondence on my forum and disseminate and post it on forums I am a member of and associated with.

I cannot understand your marketing materials I have seen, which stress the high value of your freeroll games and omit that your current setup does not provide a method for US players to be paid - as you might be aware many more read the marketing and not additional, less publicized information that explains important details which in this case do not allow them to cash out winnings.

Thank you for your response,
Jon (Merlin333)

Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:45:31 +0200
From: cashier@rossopoker.com
To: jonh333@
Subject: Re: FW: Prospective Affiliate questions? 2nd request for information

Hi Jon,

Sorry for not replying but I was on holidays and under the impression my collegue would handle your e-mail.

We accept US players but deposit and cash out methods are not in place yet. Busy working on Western Union but will not be ready "tomorrow" And yes, making a deposit is necessary before making any cash out request.

Thanks and best regards,

Monique
cashier @rossopoker.com

Merlin333.BigForumLive.Com

Below please find the request for information I sent last evening. I have not received a reply or a confirmation of receipt.

Please respond and be advised that this will be distributed to other poker forums.

Sincerely,
Jon

From: jonh333@
To: cashier@rossopoker.com
Subject: Prospective Affiliate questions?
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:54:54 -0400

Merlin333.BigForumLive.Com

We are a poker forum in the US. Having recently heard of your site, we
are investigating the feasibility of becoming an affiliate.

Upon reviewing your FAQ's and reading the sections below which seem to say you cannot pay American based sites such as ours or players because of the UIGEA - two important questions arise. 1.) Is that a correct
read of the rules below - if not what is your policy regarding payment for referrals from American entities and payment to American players (in the US) 2.) Do you accept American players and pay them their winnings and sites for referrals. I'd venture to say that all American poker forums have a mixture of players from all countries that play internet poker.

I have one further question (I did enter into the form in your affiliate site) What is your cash-out policy for winning freerolls having not made a deposit? This question is of course answered should the previous question not be answered in the affirmative.

Feel free to take a look at our site in either case..

Sincerely,
Jon Holt

These are the rules as they appear on your
site:

Why are United States residents
excluded for the definition of Real Money Players?

As of 2nd October 2006 our definition of Real Money Players will no longer include players who are located within the US. The Unlawful
Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 will prevent us from accepting U.S. consumer deposits for the purpose of betting or wagering. Since we will not able to generate any revenue from new or existing US players in the future, we will not be able to pay out any revenue share for existing users or CPA payments for new users coming
from the US.

What is a real money Player?
Real Money Player(s) are any person who is attached to your Tracker (or where applicable, your Sub-Affiliates Tracker) who: (i) has not been a Player with us before; (ii) who has made the minimum required deposit;
(iii) is not located in the United States of America or in any other territory which we specify as being a restricted territory; (iv) is
accepted as a player under any applicable sign up or identity verification procedure which we may require; (v) any other qualification criteria that we may introduce from time to time.

07-26-2008 11:18 / 03-30-2011 02:23

Merlin333 (User Offline) Wrote 1 post
since 01-31-2007

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Thanks for the heads up Jon (Merlin333). I'm sure all of our members on PN appreciate your diligence.

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07-26-2008 11:35

davega (User Offline) Wrote 1719 posts
since 04-28-2007

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what site do you mean so that we can immediately not to enter to that site and thank you for your concern.

07-12-2010 04:17

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