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I played my first ring game. It was $.10/.25 on Stars. I ended up $18. I have never seen anything like it. There were hands with 9 to the flop. You better have a hand at this level. People rarely fold any draw.

08-25-2008 08:57

CecilTurtle (User Offline) Wrote 23 posts
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You are right. At this level, it is strictly ABC poker. Bluffs are simply donations.

On a side note, this was really your 1st ring game?? Nice job.

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08-25-2008 09:41

davega (User Offline) Wrote 1719 posts
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I played a ring game a couple of years ago and donked off $50 in a session. I decided to stay away from them. It was before I realized that bluffing and chasing gutshots all the time was the wrong way to play. Remember when you thought top pair could never lose. I traditionally play low SNGs. I have been out of it for awhile. I am trying to build my bankroll and then move on to low MTTs and higher stakes SNGs. My biggest problem right now is putting people on hands.

08-25-2008 10:20

CecilTurtle (User Offline) Wrote 23 posts
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what i find helpful is not trying to put people on an exact hand. sometimes you can but most of the time its an educated guess. try instead to put people on a range of hands...

for example Player A will only raise from early position w/ AQ+ or any pocket pair. when he gets in position, however, he will raise suited connectors and any two face cards as well. you can make these assumptions after just a few showdowns. again this isn't exact info but helps greatly.

after those opinions are formed you can decide whether the "story" he is telling you fits his hand range and so on. this is only the first step of analysis but its the most important as it will set the tone for the decisions you make on later streets.

also, feel free to ignore everything i just said. esp. at low limits. just play ABC poker and you will in.

What matters most is how well you walk through the fire.

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Viticus{k-Hearts}{k-Diamonds}

09-02-2008 16:59

Viticus (User Offline) Wrote 915 posts
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Viticus wrote

also, feel free to ignore everything i just said.

I LOL'ed

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09-02-2008 18:25

Rockbottom87 (User Offline) Wrote 894 posts
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its funny cause its true.

What matters most is how well you walk through the fire.

"And yes, Nelly busted out early. I am getting so hot, I'm gonna donk my chips off." - Dr.Pauly

Viticus{k-Hearts}{k-Diamonds}

09-21-2008 15:32

Viticus (User Offline) Wrote 915 posts
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I agree, it seems like at the low level ring games (even tournaments) bluffs & semi-bluffs don't seem to be effective.

I liken it to what Dave said: "Bluffs are simply donations."

That's been my experience but I usually stay away from ring games as I strictly play tournaments.

Anybody else have any words of wisdom about ring games? I prefer tourneys, anybody prefer ring games over tourneys? If so, how come?

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07-16-2009 07:10

JMoneyInTheNW (User Offline) Wrote 1 post
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I prefer tournies and my results at ring games disqualify me from giving any advise.

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07-16-2009 09:16

davega (User Offline) Wrote 1719 posts
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Though I do Like to play tourneys when I can, I play a lot of lo level cash games.
Your right they are tough and bluffing should be very infrequent and if you do be prepared to go A.I.
I have been profitable in the long run by playing super tight and rarely bluffing.

I like them because of the obvious, Instantly in and out, no waiting for a time, Log-on play...log-off and go.
Super Donks at the table?....Just change tables.
E8

11-14-2009 03:47

ezee8 (User Offline) Wrote 4 posts
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Viticus,
With all due respect....You might want to consider changing your picture.
E8

11-14-2009 03:54

ezee8 (User Offline) Wrote 4 posts
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ezee8 wrote

Viticus,

With all due respect....You might want to consider changing your picture.

E8

why?

What matters most is how well you walk through the fire.

"And yes, Nelly busted out early. I am getting so hot, I'm gonna donk my chips off." - Dr.Pauly

Viticus{k-Hearts}{k-Diamonds}

11-15-2009 05:52

Viticus (User Offline) Wrote 915 posts
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Because it's a dude drinking piss with a straw I would guess. To be quite honest, I don't particularly enjoy it either.

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11-15-2009 07:37

Horoeschio (User Offline) Wrote 777 posts
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Horoeschio wrote

Because it's a dude drinking piss with a straw I would guess. To be quite honest, I don't particularly enjoy it either.

but i so greatly enjoy your avatar.

What matters most is how well you walk through the fire.

"And yes, Nelly busted out early. I am getting so hot, I'm gonna donk my chips off." - Dr.Pauly

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11-15-2009 08:28

Viticus (User Offline) Wrote 915 posts
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Way to purposely miss the point. It's plain obvious why someone would ask you to change the avatar. It's disgusting and apparently offensive to some.

Are you just looking for an argument again?

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11-15-2009 08:57

Horoeschio (User Offline) Wrote 777 posts
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i was effing with him. merely playing dumb until someone came forward to state the obvious.

in fact, i wouldn't have even replied to yours if you hadn't mentioned the fact that you didn't enjoy it either. my next thought was, "do we really create our avatars for other user's enjoyment?" That is why I left the comment I did.

No, I am not looking for an argument.

Also, My original reply to ezee8 was going to be..."With all due respect...you should consider getting a picture." Then I figured that would have been offensive.

What matters most is how well you walk through the fire.

"And yes, Nelly busted out early. I am getting so hot, I'm gonna donk my chips off." - Dr.Pauly

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11-15-2009 12:21

Viticus (User Offline) Wrote 915 posts
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That's a dude?

Seriously, I actually avoid reading your posts because your picture makes me feel sick!

11-15-2009 13:27

RichyChip (User Offline) Wrote 3 posts
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RichyChip wrote

That's a dude?

Seriously, I actually avoid reading your posts because your picture makes me feel sick!

nice.

What matters most is how well you walk through the fire.

"And yes, Nelly busted out early. I am getting so hot, I'm gonna donk my chips off." - Dr.Pauly

Viticus{k-Hearts}{k-Diamonds}

11-15-2009 14:45

Viticus (User Offline) Wrote 915 posts
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je reconnais que votre avatar n'est pas terrible
mais pas de commentaire
bon jeu a tout le monde
jed 01

(AC) (que) (Ah) (ad)

11-16-2009 02:23

jed01 (User Offline) Wrote 3 posts
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guy1: Hey, you know what the most common French phrase is?

guy2: I give.

guy1: hahahahahaha

What matters most is how well you walk through the fire.

"And yes, Nelly busted out early. I am getting so hot, I'm gonna donk my chips off." - Dr.Pauly

Viticus{k-Hearts}{k-Diamonds}

11-16-2009 03:43

Viticus (User Offline) Wrote 915 posts
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V., this is the best I have heard!

There is never a wrong mistake as long as you learn the first time! {2-Diamonds}{7-Spades}

11-16-2009 06:47

mrdick2u (User Offline) Wrote 665 posts
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