not knowing enough about the subject, but if the US banned child porn websites that were legal in another country, would that break the WTO rules? I honestly don't think something like this is a legitimate violation. I think it is just something thought up to help push the cause. The US should have the choice in banning this or not.
Even if the US legalizes it, most of those European ones may be put out of business because of all the regulations that the US would set and those standards would probably become the default everyone has to follow.
There is never a wrong mistake as long as you learn the first time! 

03-27-2009 13:24
not knowing enough about the subject
Thats pretty ovbvious so next time do some research so you can at least pretend to know what you are talking about.
03-28-2009 05:28
had you done your research you would know Mr.Dick, while i dont like to admit it, is pretty capable when it comes to politics and political law. so his point of view is not completely off base. next time take a few seconds and breathe before you get all worked up.
oh and what a great way to make a positive first impression.
What matters most is how well you walk through the fire.
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Viticus

03-28-2009 09:18
Well, facts are that Speedy is right about what he says... furthermore he s just expressing his ( colorfull ) opinion so i don t see anything wrong.
As a side note I think it is in everybody's ( every countries ) interest to follow the WTO, at least on the long run. I might be wrong, but that s what I think.
03-28-2009 10:25
didnt say his thoughts were wrong. it just seems to me that if you are going to be an *ss in your response to someone perhaps you should provide a legitimate argument as to why you disagree.
simply saying its obvious you have no clue what you are talking about is easy. proving your point on the other hand might take a little more effort. if you want to call someone an idiot you should probably back up why you think so, esp. if its your second post.
otherwise i could just spam every forum post with...you're an idiot.
What matters most is how well you walk through the fire.
"And yes, Nelly busted out early. I am getting so hot, I'm gonna donk my chips off." - Dr.Pauly
Viticus

03-28-2009 13:24
Viticus wrote
otherwise i could just spam every forum post with...you're an idiot.
I thought you already did that. 

Just another KITNs. You'll get used to them.

03-28-2009 13:42
davega wrote
Viticus wrote
otherwise i could just spam every forum post with...you're an idiot.
I thought you already did that.
i do. but that doesnt make it right.
What matters most is how well you walk through the fire.
"And yes, Nelly busted out early. I am getting so hot, I'm gonna donk my chips off." - Dr.Pauly
Viticus

03-28-2009 14:14
MrDick makes his point by comparing child porn to poker and accuses the EU of making things up. OK. Do i really need to counter that solid argument. I did have counterpoints to what he was saying but i stuffed up the qoute things and cbf`ed editing it I don`t recall calling anyone an idiot. I was just letting him no his knowledge on this isn`t great which like i said is pretty obv and if he did a bit of research he might view the topic differently. When people research themselves they take more on board then when someone argues with them on a forum.
BTW i didn`t even know my comments would end up on a forum board.
03-28-2009 20:26
see this i dont mind. thank you.
What matters most is how well you walk through the fire.
"And yes, Nelly busted out early. I am getting so hot, I'm gonna donk my chips off." - Dr.Pauly
Viticus

03-29-2009 06:24
Okay, maybe not the best subject, but it was a good example of what came to mind. I should have clarified more, by my example was meant to revolve around the idea that my understanding was a couple countries allowed people of the ages 16 or 17 to appear in porn and in some case was legal for a person to possess porn if the ages were 16 or 17.
"Ban on pornographic literature was lifted in 1967. In 1969 Denmark was the first country in the world to legalize pornography.
Since 1980, child pornography is illegal. It is illegal to distribute image or video pornography with persons under the age of 18. Though the age of consent is lower at 15. It is, however, not illegal to possess images or videos of people above 15 if the person filmed or photographed has given consent." (this is illegal in the US!)
as well as
"The Internet has also caused problems with the enforcement of age limits regarding performers and subjects. In most countries, males and females under the age of 18 are not allowed to appear in porn films, but in several European countries the age limit is 16, and in Denmark it is legal for women as young as 16 to appear topless in mainstream newspapers and magazines."
So, I might have a bad topic here, but not sure I was that far off, based on the understanding I have always had. I appologize for using a bad subject. I in no way condone it, I think the legal age should be 18 and they should be very strict about enforcing it.
Let me try another example then. What about if one country has legalized marijuana? Should all other countries have to follow this? What about emmission standards for cars. Should these then be uniform throughout all countries? My point is, different societies choose to have different priorities...the WTO shouldn't interfere with those...
From the WTO's website...
"Although negotiated and signed by governments, the goal is to help producers of goods and services, exporters, and importers conduct their business, while allowing governments to meet social and environmental objectives."
The US has set a social policy of not allowing internet gambling! So, in my opinion, it isn't a violation of the trade agreemetns to ban online gambling. Now, if the US were only to allow American online gambling companies, and not allow gambling companies from foreign countries, this in my mind would be a violation!
Again, sorry about not explaining the intent of my original comment!
There is never a wrong mistake as long as you learn the first time! 

03-30-2009 06:18
speedyj1 wrote
Sorry for being an ass earlier.
HAHA, I still need to learn how to express myself on the net in a better manner. I am very opinionated and in real life it is much easier to explain because I can use more words. When I write down, in an attempt to not make it too long, I often write things in a way in which my point doesn't come across as I mean to.
I would get worked up if I thought someone was even hinting that child porn was okay! So, my fault for not better expressing my thoughts! (P.S. speedy, in case you don't know, I am from Bama...not the best with the written language!)
There is never a wrong mistake as long as you learn the first time! 

03-30-2009 09:11
don't worry, we are already pleasantly surprised there's an internet connection in Alabama.
03-30-2009 09:28
Rockbottom87 wrote
don't worry, we are already pleasantly surprised there's an internet connection in Alabama.
There isn't, that is why I moved to Florida!
There is never a wrong mistake as long as you learn the first time! 

03-30-2009 09:47

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