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Phil Ivey mucks a hand....can someone help me understand it..

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I have never seen a situation like this, and I am curious how that works. It goes with out saying Ivey is only human and made a mistake. But I am still perplexed. If it gets down to show down and a player misinterprets his hand and mucks his cards, even when he won the hand, the other player gets to keep the chips? Don't officials step in and correct said situation?

And then you will beg.....

11-01-2009 19:48

GearsOfWar (User Offline) Wrote 19 posts
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The officials dont know what the hand is until it is shown.
It is the players responsibility 100% to know if he won or not, unless he shows the hand then the cards speak for themselves.

11-01-2009 19:58

jaldy (User Offline) Wrote 162 posts
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Umm.. how would officials step in when they don't know what Ivey had?

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11-02-2009 02:57

Horoeschio (User Offline) Wrote 777 posts
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That is a bit dumb, I get why the player would be responsible but Ivey lost a decent sized pot to some dude, just cuz the officials watching didn't point it out.

And then you will beg.....

11-02-2009 07:43

GearsOfWar (User Offline) Wrote 19 posts
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Are you serious? If Ivey just shows his damn cards how he's supposed to, he wins the pot.

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11-02-2009 07:51

Horoeschio (User Offline) Wrote 777 posts
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So, if you throw away a winning lottery ticket without ever checking the numbers, the lottery official should be responsible for you throwing away money?

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11-02-2009 08:30

mrdick2u (User Offline) Wrote 665 posts
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Look if it were a normal game where there weren't card cams I would understand, no one would know period. But this was televised, and needless to say that who ever was running the televised WSOP 09 would have some knowledge of poker. And bring it to an officials attention. I get it, I understand the way the situation ends. I just think some guy ended up with extra chips when he ultimately does not even need em. Mean while more chips would help any player, especially Ivey being in the Nov 9.

And then you will beg.....

11-02-2009 17:33

GearsOfWar (User Offline) Wrote 19 posts
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There is no reason why someone should have stopped Ivey mucking his winner. The player and the player alone needs to remember his cards.

Also, anyone able to see the video (i.e. the guys in the trailer) is forbidden to say anything about the hands being played.

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11-02-2009 22:26

Rockbottom87 (User Offline) Wrote 894 posts
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Let's keep this thread on topic one time.

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11-03-2009 03:20

Horoeschio (User Offline) Wrote 777 posts
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