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PokerStars Game #40948501705: Tournament #251203894, $3.00+$0.40 USD Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level XI (600/1200) - 2010/03/10 9:47:26 ET
Table '251203894 1' 10-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: bobbydr (5053 in chips)
Seat 3: X cooler X (1400 in chips)
Seat 4: Ligeiro1972 (8547 in chips)
Ligeiro1972: posts small blind 600
bobbydr: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bobbydr
X cooler X: folds
Ligeiro1972: raises 1200 to 2400
bobbydr: calls 1200
*** FLOP ***
Ligeiro1972: bets 2400
bobbydr: raises 253 to 2653 and is all-in
Ligeiro1972: calls 253
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ligeiro1972: shows (HI: a full house, Fives full of Threes)
bobbydr: shows (HI: two pair, Queens and Jacks)
Ligeiro1972 collected 10106 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10106 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 2: bobbydr (big blind) showed and lost with HI: two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 3: X cooler X (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Ligeiro1972 (small blind) showed and won (10106) with HI: a full house, Fives full of Threes

PokerStars Game #40981424538: Tournament #251435869, $3.00+$0.40 USD Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level VII (150/300) - 2010/03/10 22:24:41 ET
Table '251435869 1' 10-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 3: bobbydr (4960 in chips)
Seat 4: zitune25 (1935 in chips)
Seat 5: tdog25407 (3491 in chips)
Seat 6: CrownAnchor6 (1926 in chips)
Seat 8: azteclee (2688 in chips)
azteclee: posts small blind 150
bobbydr: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bobbydr
zitune25: folds
tdog25407: folds
CrownAnchor6: calls 300
azteclee: calls 150
bobbydr: checks
*** FLOP ***
azteclee: checks
bobbydr: checks
CrownAnchor6: checks
*** TURN ***
azteclee: bets 300
bobbydr: raises 1500 to 1800
CrownAnchor6: calls 1626 and is all-in
azteclee: folds
Uncalled bet (174) returned to bobbydr
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bobbydr: shows (HI: three of a kind, Fours)
CrownAnchor6: shows (HI: a straight, Ace to Five; LO: 5,4,3,2,A)
CrownAnchor6 collected 2226 from pot
CrownAnchor6 collected 2226 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4452 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 3: bobbydr (big blind) showed and lost with HI: three of a kind, Fours
Seat 4: zitune25 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: tdog25407 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: CrownAnchor6 (button) showed and won (4452) with HI: a straight, Ace to Five; LO: 5,4,3,2,A
Seat 8: azteclee (small blind) folded on the Turn

not commenting on the donkiness of the players.

should we be folding the first hand in order to let the short stack blind out?

yeah .. ICM wise the first hand is pretty bad.

i dont let big stacks run me over, blinds are huge, and whos to say the small stack will lose when hes bb

i know what you are saying.

my thought on this is that the best outcome makes you the chipleader. in that case you still have to knock out two players to win first. the worst option is you make 3rd place money.

trueski

so the risk/reward ratio just isn't worth it in this situation? i should settile fro 2nd untill 3rd gets knocked out(hopefully) then fight it out?

honestly with the blinds this high any edge you find is going to be very minimal.

However, I think it is very rare for the small stack to make it through the blinds again. So if the majority of the time the small stack doesnt make it through the blinds then the majority of the time you are guaranteed second place money.

"However, I think it is very rare for the small stack to make it through the blinds again"

Perhaps but this is h/l alot of split pots

i thought about that and cant really decide whether thats changes my thought line or not.

PokerStars Game #41025301059: Tournament #250252952, $2.00+$0.20 USD 8-Game (Hold'em Limit) - Level XXVI (400/800) - 2010/03/11 20:03:13 ET
Table '250252952 16' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: cv518 (3330 in chips)
Seat 2: Nijsse (4071 in chips)
Seat 3: Alpha_Centau (11619 in chips)
Seat 4: bobbydr (6946 in chips)
Seat 6: chragg (10514 in chips)
bobbydr: posts small blind 200
chragg: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bobbydr
cv518: folds
Nijsse: raises 400 to 800
Alpha_Centau: folds
bobbydr: raises 400 to 1200
chragg: calls 800
Nijsse: calls 400
*** FLOP ***
bobbydr: bets 400
chragg: calls 400
Nijsse: calls 400
*** TURN ***
bobbydr: bets 800
chragg: raises 800 to 1600
Nijsse: folds
bobbydr: calls 800
*** RIVER ***
bobbydr: checks
chragg: bets 800
bobbydr: calls 800
*** SHOW DOWN ***
chragg: shows (a full house, Sixes full of Threes)
bobbydr: mucks hand
chragg collected 9600 from pot
Nijsse said, "wish there was a 7-game without limit hold 'em =["
bobbydr said, "omfg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9600 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: cv518 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Nijsse folded on the Turn
Seat 3: Alpha_Centau (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: bobbydr (small blind) mucked
Seat 6: chragg (big blind) showed and won (9600) with a full house, Sixes full of Threes

guy calls a raise then reraise in limit HE with 6's,

now that's just completely standard..

standard it may be, still donk ass play though, its limit he, how do you play 6's post flop? also hitting a set well just get you a few extra bets, not like no limit whee you can stack sum1

Jesus christ man ..

Preflop call is 800 for a pot of 2400 with huge implied odds. Flop call is standard. Turn = jackpot.

And look, on the river the pot is a measly 10k .. that sure wasn't worth it, huh.

Wow it's good you don't post on the .nl site cause they had burned you to the ground for whining.

The 6'are superstandard, easy call pre flop on the flop most of the time 6's are good so why would he fold?

so its ok to play small pocket pairs for a raise then reraise pf? its not even that advisable to play small pocket pairs limping in in a multi way pot, bcuz the implied odds just arnt there, and there wont be many flops you are happy with, and theres little chance to making it to the river winnign the hnd

I hope you were either drunk or stoned out of your mind when you wrote this.

Tony, don't you miss me? Now that I am not here, there is no one to post crazy crap to keep them from realizing how big of a whining donk you really are!!! LOL