The Muck: Players Upset After GGPoker Categorizes Pros
The professional poker community continues to butt heads with GGPoker brass.
A couple of weeks back, the rising poker site made headlines for a dispute with high-stakes pro Tobias Duthweiler. The German cash game reg accused the site of stealing $180,000 from him, with GGPoker maintaining it simply followed company policy in reaction to a player defying a ban from the network.
If that dispute highlighted how the site finds itself at odds with professional grinders, a Friday Twitter post fanned the sparks into a full on fire.
Attempt at Goodwill Backfires
Understanding that the banning of players was causing negative community reaction in many spots, GGPoker attempted to regain some goodwill in the community by offering the chance for those banned to apply for reinstatement. The site has taken much criticism for allegedly banning winning players, something it maintains is not the case at all.
For a limited time only, we will be extending an olive branch to previously banned players on GGNetwork. If you hav… https://t.co/BqNRULBPt2— GGPoker - HOME OF WSOP 2020 ONLINE BRACELET SERIES (@GGPokerOfficial)
The thread went on to explain how players could apply for reinstatement and that their accounts would be restored as real name accounts if they were cleared.
Those who clicked on the link offered found a page that did not sit well with many.
@PizzaPokerPsych The link is not available in certain countries like the US. Here is a screenshot instead https://t.co/eIv4R1ct9L— GGPoker - HOME OF WSOP 2020 ONLINE BRACELET SERIES (@GGPokerOfficial)
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Well-Known Players Disgusted
Many top players were not fans of being categorized into being good, bad or regular pros in the eyes of a poker operator. Furthermore, there was also acrimony over GGPoker lumping ghosting and real-time assistance usage in with bum-hunting, which many players simply see as game selecting, something that's been a part of poker strategy since the first cards were dealt in a competitive game.
At this point I think they’re insulting the poker community’s intelligence. https://t.co/CGo10XJulN— Phil Galfond (@PhilGalfond)
@Joeingram1 Their terms basically say that you aren't allowed to game select, or you're "bumhunting" and therefore… https://t.co/ft0WtsWLna— Todd Witteles (@ToddWitteles)
@GGPokerOfficial Nice of you to equate assisted live play with whatever lousy definition you have of bumhunting. Sh… https://t.co/o08iyzMD4q— Joris Ruijs (@Ruysvogel)
@Joeingram1 Don't like the caption "bad pro". It should be named unacceptable behavior / reasons for termination.… https://t.co/HlZy7SCujE— Maureen B. (@mjbloech)
More Mild Reactions
While many found themselves upset after the GGPoker post, the poker community wasn't universal in castigating the operator. Some players pointed out that it was a good step in rebuilding the relationship between GGPoker and the top pros who were jaded by the company's controversial policies.
@Joeingram1 i think it is a great move to open back up communication. i think they realized they made some mistakes… https://t.co/mmHxAFZHgS— marty mathis (@martymath)
@Joeingram1 @martymath Tbh, I'm usually a pretty big critic of poker sites (because they generally deserve it) and… https://t.co/OK3hRlj65I— ApoisBack (@chriskruk4)
Others felt there was some truth to the post, or that GGPoker's policies overall represented a good step toward cleaning up an online poker world that has left many recreational players unhappy.
@Joeingram1 I don't like the wording here, but I think it is Great that GG are at least trying to stop Predatory Po… https://t.co/PVLMAD3E8y— fairdinkum ( Mr Barnett ) (@fairdin04443704)
@Joeingram1 I think they’re being more transparent than any site has ever been on what they are trying to accomplis… https://t.co/lJB7uqfWQ3— Evan Parkes (@purplepils99)
@Joeingram1 It’s tough bc some of the things they mention here make sense to me, but the reality is we have zero vi… https://t.co/o0DPv6PJKg— Matt Vaughan (@mEVpoker)
@Joeingram1 Poker is a business that attracts bad actors. Operators have to deal with those bad actors. They will… https://t.co/TrEncRLcfE— Joe Heinzmann (@JoeHeinzmann)
@Joeingram1 Yeah it’s tough like we should all try to stop the things in the bad pro list but can’t confiscate fund… https://t.co/Fk2VJW7vZ4— Ryan Depaulo: Degenerate Gambler (@depaulo_ryan)