LATB, WSOP, PokerStars, and More on Security of Their Livestreams
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"If you were this good, why would you be playing in games only with a video feed at a $1/$3 table at Stones poker room? Why wouldn’t you be in Vegas, winning all the money in the world?"
Scott Van Pelt hit the nail on the head on ESPN last week when he addressed the Mike Postle cheating allegations on "SportsCenter".
Anyone who's delved into the matter, or who has read at least one of the many articles produced here on the subject, knows the answer: Postle allegedly had an unfair advantage at Stones that he wouldn't have had anywhere else.
The lawsuit filed alleges he had help from one or more persons in the production of the livestreamed show. If Postle went to the next big game in some other casino, he wouldn't be able to pull off what he allegedly did at Stones.
What's alarmed the poker world isn't just that Postle allegedly took the local Sacramento poker community for over $300,000. It's the implication that if Postle could do this in his local game, that others could do it at other venues as well.
"Ultimately, these systems are only as secure as the people you entrust them to."
PokerGFX founder Andrew Milner, whose company aids in the production of many livestreams, including the one at Stones, said it best:
"Ultimately, these systems are only as secure as the people you entrust them to."
Whether it's RFID, good old hole card cameras, or any other system, someone will have access to the hole cards in real time. The security and the protocols in place at a venue or show determine how cheat-proof the production ultimately will be.
PokerNews reached out to several operators who livestream poker with hole card information to ask what measures they have in place to prevent cheating. As most focus their attention on tournaments, we also asked what the process was for selecting who would be on the feature table when not yet down to a final table.
At the time of writing, no comments were received from 888poker and Triton Poker, while partypoker and the Aussie Millions declined to comment.
We post these comments unaltered, with only some minor editing for readability.
World Series of Poker
The World Series of Poker hosts livestreams for their event in Las Vegas and the WSOP Europe in Rozvadov, as well as numerous WSOP International Circuit events. Their WSOP streams can be viewed via PokerGO.
"First to be clear, we are not going to comment on this specific situation as we don’t have all the facts or insight into this casino’s operations for livestreams. The WSOP has not and have no plans to livestream cash games. With tournaments, the randomness of who reaches final tables makes it much more difficult to breach integrity.
"For WSOP livestreams, we have very specific protocols in place [...] all centered on ensuring integrity."
For WSOP live streams, we have very specific protocols in place (and many requirements by the Nevada Gaming Commission), all centered on ensuring integrity. We employ a clear separation of church and state, so to speak, as it relates to production personnel versus tournament staff.
There are a lot of procedures in place that are critical to minimizing potential opportunity. Among them are:
- The chain of command for RFID cards
- The software used to read the cards
- The setup of servers
- The segregation of hole card graphics
- Internet access restrictions
- Cell phone protocols for players and production staff
- Location and security of “peeker” room
And the list really does go on and on from there. While no one can “guarantee,” the WSOP believes it employs industry-leading protocols with the integrity of the game as the utmost requirement.
Players should also know, the Nevada Gaming Commission is their independent advocate and watchdog. The Commission is there to address player concerns after the fact, and of course, is there before and during our live streams to verify procedures, strength test and monitor all our livestream activities.
So in a worst-case scenario, there is recourse; a clear investigation process from a regulator, and a gaming license in jeopardy for the operator. Game integrity is paramount to the WSOP’s operations, and players can feel very confident that we are doing all we can to properly balance growing the game without allowing any unnecessary risk to tournament operations."
PokerGO is the home of the WSOP, as well as countless other poker shows, including livestreams and on-demand content.
"Hole card security is by far the most important part of our production. As the first poker production company in the industry, we pioneered poker on TV, expanding across digital, and evolving with the latest innovations. We are confident in our record of integrity and the fairness of all events and shows our team has produced over the last 17 years.
However, we understand that once a cheating incident looms somewhere in the poker world, players and audiences can have questions that we must address in order to maintain our community’s confidence in the integrity of all Poker Central tournaments and games. We have a multi-layered security process with checks and balances that include cutting-edge technology.
"Hole card security is by far the most important part of our production."
In an attempt to put the community's collective mind at ease and address many questions asked by players, we are sharing a few details of our security process noted below. Please keep in mind that these explanations are broad strokes — we have withheld select smaller details of our process for the sake of brevity.
First, we track hole cards using a secure system involving “hole cams” as a back-up to our current and modern method, RFID. The RFID technology system is layered with safeguards to ensure all metadata for each card is carefully identified, tracked, and unalterable.
During play, hole cards are reviewed by operators who have received background checks and clearance by government agencies. Access to live hole card information during our productions is restricted to only these licensed operators with occasional oversight from gaming officials to ensure all parties involved are performing to the highest of standards. There is no other production personnel with access to live hole cards. Additionally, we have protections implemented to safeguard our closed network from unauthorized access. These security measures, in place before, during, and after play concludes, leave no room for cheating to happen without us knowing.
We are happy to provide more details on our security systems for any interested parties and believe that transparency and honesty is the only way to keep the poker community thriving. We will continue to host all of our tournaments, shows, and events to meet and exceed these standards, and we appreciate your faith in us."
Live at the Bike
Live at the Bike is the longest-running poker livestream available on the internet. Hosted at the famous The Bicycle Casino in Los Angeles, they stream via liveatthebike.com and their YouTube channel.
"Joker Gaming, LLC has been producing the 'Live at the Bike!' streaming show since 2004. We join with the Bicycle Hotel and Casino in a strong commitment to protecting the game’s integrity. We have never experienced any violations of the software or computer systems utilized in our production.
"We are confident that our system and security measures are fully protecting players’ information"
There are numerous measures in place to ensure the security of the card information, and we continue to be proactive in working with the Bike to implement new security measures from time to time.
Recently, we have begun studying all the defrauding hypotheses put forth by the poker community to better understand the allegations and take preventative measures if necessary.
We are confident that our system and security measures are fully protecting players’ information when playing at 'Live at the Bike!'."
"PokerStars takes the integrity of our live events broadcasting very seriously. For our Tier 1 events, we have developed bespoke, proprietary technology to ensure that sensitive data is fully protected and is unable to be sent or accessed outside of the event itself. This system was built from the ground up with security at the top of the list of priorities, and features in-built measures to protect against human error.
"This system was built from the ground up with security at the top of the list of priorities"
All staff and crew working on these broadcast streams are fully vetted, trusted members of staff or broadcast professionals and within this team, the number of people who have access to sensitive information is strictly limited. Any information that is sent externally, for example to commentators or Run It Up, is public access data.
There are many measures we take on top of this to ensure that security is not compromised including:
- Players are not permitted to use their phones when in a hand and players on the final table are not allowed to use headphones. They must also surrender their mobile phones which are kept in a safe box monitored by tournament staff and can only be accessed during tournament breaks
- Mobile phones are not permitted in the cards-up area, which is cordoned off and monitored by security teams and CCTV
- We have a range of criteria for selecting feature table players (Ambassadors, celebrities, personalities, action, table talk, breaking order, chips on table) – no one can guarantee being on a feature table, and therefore in a cards-up situation
- We never interfere with the breaking order of movement of players as the tournament plays down to its conclusion – we make any decisions about feature tables based on the published breaking order
We constantly review existing measures based on learnings, evolving technology, player feedback and of course, what we see happening elsewhere in the poker world."
"Unibet is part of Kindred Group, an international gambling company, that has always taken great care to ensure the safety and integrity of its customers.
"We are confident in [...] their ability to guarantee the system’s integrity at all times."
These aspects are also an integrated part of our group strategy and fundamental to our ability to run a sustainable business as a listed company, which is why we partner with companies who share our high level of customer safety. Unibet Open has worked with our trusted partner Sharehand since 2012, and we are confident in their ability to spot and prevent unusual behavior, as well as their ability to guarantee the system’s integrity at all times."
World Poker Tour
The World Poker Tour is the premier poker tour in the United States with successful spinoffs in the WPTDeepStacks, WPT500, and WPT National events. Several of their events are taped for television, with some events broadcast to the world via their YouTube channel.
"The WPT takes security as a paramount priority"
“While the WPT takes security as a paramount priority, the WPT does not publicly disclose the security protocols of its global casino partners or its livestream providers for security reasons."
Run It Up
Jason Somerville's Run It Up events are a fun gathering of poker fans and pros alike. Their live events are broadcast to the world via their Twitch channel.
"We take game integrity seriously and have been paying close attention to the Postle allegations, especially to learn anything about potential weaknesses in our system. Our Run It Up Reno tournaments are all licensed and operated under the Nevada Gaming Commission. Hole card data is transmitted via hardline fiber and never is transmitted across the internet until the delay is in place.
"In accordance with the gaming commission's rules, our operation is thoroughly vetted by commission agents multiple times during the event."
In accordance with the gaming commission's rules, our operation is thoroughly vetted by commission agents multiple times during the event. As per their requirements, an armed security guard is at all times posted outside the peek room, with only licensed personnel allowed inside.
Our feature tables are usually first selected based on personalities, and then rotated at each break until we reach the final table.
We do not use the option in PokerGFX to share the stream. That setup requires considerable effort and planning to enable, which we have not and do not intend to do."
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In this Series
- 1 Mike Postle Accused of Cheating During Livestreamed Cash Games
- 2 10 Suspicious Hands Played by Mike Postle on Livestream
- 3 Stones Gambling Hall Suspends All Poker Broadcasts Following Alleged Cheating
- 4 Stones Launches Investigation Into Postle Cheating Saga
- 5 PokerNews Podcast: Stones Scandal
- 6 Mike Postle Goes on Mike Matusow's 'The Mouthpiece' Podcast, Denies Cheating
- 7 LATB, WSOP, PokerStars, and More on Security of Their Livestreams
- 8 Mike Postle, Stones Parties Hit With $10M Lawsuit
- 9 Graphics Company Reacts to Mike Postle Cheating Allegations Saga
- 10 Watch List: Investigative Videos Mike Postle Cheating Allegations
- 11 Watch Whistleblower Veronica Brill on Joey Ingram's Podcast
- 12 PokerNews Podcast: Jeff Boski on Postle Scandal
- 13 Mike Postle's Lawyer: "I Know Such Streaks Are Possible"
- 14 The Postle Lawsuit is Not as Clear Cut As It May Seem
- 15 Top 10 Stories of 2019: Mike Postle Caught Cheating on Livestream
- 16 Mike Postle Accused of Avoiding Court Summons
- 17 Mike Postle Files, Possibly Leaks Own Motion to Dismiss
- 18 Marle Cordeiro Files Lawsuit Against Mike Postle Seeking $250K
- 19 Stones in New Motion to Dismiss Mike Postle Lawsuit: “Casinos Do Not Owe a General Duty of Care to Gamblers"
- 20 Motion for Sanctions Filed Against Mike Postle; Latest on Motion to Dismiss
- 21 Plaintiffs Respond to Stones & Justin Kuraitis Motions to Dismiss in Mike Postle Case
- 22 PokerNews-Op Ed: Postle Tightlipped in Oral Arguments, Motion to Dismiss Outcome a Coinflip
- 23 Plaintiffs' Case Against Mike Postle, Stones Dismissed by Judge
- 24 Plaintiff's Lawyer Offers a Reflection on the Stones/Mike Postle Ruling
- 25 Judge Dismisses Marle Cordeiro’s Case Against Mike Postle for Lack of Jurisdiction
- 26 Settlement Finalized for 60 Plaintiffs in Case With Stones, Kuraitis
- 27 Mike Postle, Justin Kuraitis Break Silences in Wake of Settlement
- 28 Leaked Term Sheet Reveals Details Regarding Stones/Kuraitis Settlement; Plaintiffs Paid $40,000
- 29 The Muck: Kuraitis, Stones Lash Out After Twitter Silence
- 30 Plaintiff's Counsel Maurice "Mac" VerStandig Reflects on the Mike Postle Litigation
- 31 Galfond, Berkey Helping Propel Research into Mike Postle's Play
- 32 Top Stories of 2020, #5: Mike Postle Saga Winds Down
- 33 Postle Hit With Two Motions to Strike, Dropped by Lawyers