Plaintiffs Respond to Stones & Justin Kuraitis Motions to Dismiss in Mike Postle Case
On Monday, two new court documents were filed in the United States District Court Eastern District of California, both related to the ongoing Mike Postle alleged-cheating scandal. The documents were filed by noted gaming attorney Maurice “Mac” VerStandig, who is representing 88 Plaintiffs in a three-prong battle against Postle, Stones Gambling Hall, and Justin Kuraitis.
The documents were a pair of opposition briefs in response to Motions to Dismiss filed by King’s Casino Management Corp, the parent company to Stones, and Kuraitis, their one-time employee.
Victimization of the Poker Community
The first document was a lengthy 66-page Opposition to Defendant King’s Casino Management Corp’s Motion to Dismiss First Amended Complaint.
That 33-page complaint was filed by Mark C. Mao of Boies Schiller Flexner LLP and claimed that the plaintiffs in the case failed "to state a claim upon which relief may be granted and failure to allege claims of fraud and misrepresentation with the required particularity."
They also state that damages cannot even be determined as "gambling-related losses are too speculative," as laid out in the 1997 case Vu v. California Commerce Club, Inc. As such, alleged gambling-related losses are not cognizable as damages and therefore Stones was not negligent.
“To whittle Plaintiffs’ argument down to a disparaging conclusion is not only offensive to Plaintiffs, but, too, to the very gaming community from which Stones draws its customer base.”
Put another way, Stones argued that the plaintiff's complaint did not and could not provide enough specifics to prove their case, that casinos cannot be sued for gambling losses, and that the casino does not have a duty to players.
“The crux of Stones’ Motion is that Plaintiffs’ Complaint and the allegations therein can be chalked up to the paradigmatic sob story of gamblers – sore losers claim they were cheated because they cannot accept the superiority of an adversary,” the Plaintiff’s opposition stated.
It continued: “To whittle Plaintiffs’ argument down to a disparaging conclusion is not only offensive to Plaintiffs, but, too, to the very gaming community from which Stones draws its customer base.”
The opposition then addresses the argument of not enough specifics by summarizing, at length, the allegations on how “Postle cheated, how Stones covered up for his cheating, how both Stones and Mr. Postle profited off his cheating, and why Stones is thusly liable for its own actionable conduct.”
“This is a case involving the victimization of the poker community in an unprecedented fashion and on an enormous scale.”
The Plaintiff’s opposition cites numerous examples of case law while also essentially offering up a history of gambling in America, even citing famed 19th-century American riverboat gambler George Devol.
It’s through that history that clarity exists, or so VerStandig argues: “The public policy of California … has been to protect those who follow the law and to turn away those who do not.”
It continued: “The Plaintiffs in this case walked into a licensed, regulated, taxed gaming establishment, paid Stones money to deal and provide security for honest card games, and were swindled time and again.”
Overall, the opposition calls for a denial of Stones’ motion to dismiss stating, “This is a case involving the victimization of the poker community in an unprecedented fashion and on an enormous scale.”
Justin Kuraitis Echoes Stones Motion
Meanwhile, the Plaintiffs also responded to the motion to dismiss filed by Justin Kuraitis, which largely echoed Stones’ motion. Unlike its counterpart, this opposition was a brief six pages, though it attached itself to the arguments set forth in the opposition to Stones’ motion to dismiss.
Kuraitis, who headed up Stones Live Poker, had argued that the motion against him should be dismissed given he was not a higher-up at Stones and that he did not commit fraud.
In their response, the Plaintiffs state the motion should be dismissed for two reasons:
- "First, the Motion characterizes Mr. Kuraitis as ‘a mid-level employee of Stones.’ The Plaintiffs have alleged Mr. Kuraitis was the director of Stones Live Poker – the poker games giving rise to this litigation – at all times relevant. They further allege he was the person responsible for the production and security of those games … It is thus apparent Mr. Kuraitis is not alleged to be a ‘mid-level employee’ but, rather, the key employee of Stones charged with oversight and operation of the games underlying the matter.”
- "Second, the Motion asserts Mr. Kuraitis cannot be liable to Mesdames Brill and Mills for fraud. As noted in the opposition to Stones’ motion, Mr. Kuraitis personally made a series of demonstrably counterfactual statements” regarding cheating in Stones Live Poker games, security audits, and investigations undertaken by Stones.
The motion also revealed that one of the Plaintiffs, Marc Goone, was dismissing his fraud claim against Kuraitis.
The court will now consider all the motions before determining how the legal battle, which is likely to be an extended affair, will proceed.
Executive Editor US, PokerNews Podcast co-host & 2013 WSOP Bracelet Winner.
In this Series
- 1 Mike Postle Accused of Cheating During Livestreamed Cash Games
- 2 10 Suspicious Hands Played by Mike Postle on Livestream
- 3 Stones Gambling Hall Suspends All Poker Broadcasts Following Alleged Cheating
- 4 Stones Launches Investigation Into Postle Cheating Saga
- 5 PokerNews Podcast: Stones Scandal
- 6 Mike Postle Goes on Mike Matusow's 'The Mouthpiece' Podcast, Denies Cheating
- 7 LATB, WSOP, PokerStars, and More on Security of Their Livestreams
- 8 Mike Postle, Stones Parties Hit With $10M Lawsuit
- 9 Graphics Company Reacts to Mike Postle Cheating Allegations Saga
- 10 Watch List: Investigative Videos Mike Postle Cheating Allegations
- 11 Watch Whistleblower Veronica Brill on Joey Ingram's Podcast
- 12 PokerNews Podcast: Jeff Boski on Postle Scandal
- 13 Mike Postle's Lawyer: "I Know Such Streaks Are Possible"
- 14 The Postle Lawsuit is Not as Clear Cut As It May Seem
- 15 Top 10 Stories of 2019: Mike Postle Caught Cheating on Livestream
- 16 Mike Postle Accused of Avoiding Court Summons
- 17 Mike Postle Files, Possibly Leaks Own Motion to Dismiss
- 18 Marle Cordeiro Files Lawsuit Against Mike Postle Seeking $250K
- 19 Stones in New Motion to Dismiss Mike Postle Lawsuit: “Casinos Do Not Owe a General Duty of Care to Gamblers"
- 20 Motion for Sanctions Filed Against Mike Postle; Latest on Motion to Dismiss
- 21 Plaintiffs Respond to Stones & Justin Kuraitis Motions to Dismiss in Mike Postle Case
- 22 PokerNews-Op Ed: Postle Tightlipped in Oral Arguments, Motion to Dismiss Outcome a Coinflip
- 23 Plaintiffs' Case Against Mike Postle, Stones Dismissed by Judge
- 24 Plaintiff's Lawyer Offers a Reflection on the Stones/Mike Postle Ruling
- 25 Judge Dismisses Marle Cordeiro’s Case Against Mike Postle for Lack of Jurisdiction
- 26 Settlement Finalized for 60 Plaintiffs in Case With Stones, Kuraitis
- 27 Mike Postle, Justin Kuraitis Break Silences in Wake of Settlement
- 28 Leaked Term Sheet Reveals Details Regarding Stones/Kuraitis Settlement; Plaintiffs Paid $40,000
- 29 The Muck: Kuraitis, Stones Lash Out After Twitter Silence
- 30 Plaintiff's Counsel Maurice "Mac" VerStandig Reflects on the Mike Postle Litigation
- 31 Galfond, Berkey Helping Propel Research into Mike Postle's Play
- 32 Top Stories of 2020, #5: Mike Postle Saga Winds Down
- 33 Postle Hit With Two Motions to Strike, Dropped by Lawyers